The following is from an old post I made in a private group, September 2019:
Problems with “natural law”
If you are not prepared to read through ALL of this and seriously contemplate/question your beliefs or feel like the folks putting forth these ideas can’t be questioned then you need to go back to the fucking drawing board, because you haven’t learned shit. Most of us came out of religious mindsets (multiple times in fact). It’s about time we stop following someone like a guru, only limiting our info to one person/viewpoint and not questioning what they are saying. The “truther” world has its own evangelists just like religion. Now I actually have learned from and appreciate some aspects of certain people’s work, but I will not get fully invested and put my 100% trust in one person or ideology.
Rant over, now read on if you care to:
DEFINITIONS FOR NATURAL LAW ARE MULTIPLE AND CONTRADICTORY.
Just do a google search and you’ll get these two off the bat which do not jive.
1. a body of *unchanging* moral principles regarded as a basis for all human conduct. [keep “unchanging” in mind. We will come back to that.]
2. an observable law relating to *natural* phenomena.
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Ok, so I actually like SOME of the morality/ethics ideas that some people are labeling “natural law” but my problem is calling them “natural law.” nature is not a guide for morals or ethics.
But, but, but that’s not what natural law means.... 
Keep reading. We will get there.
I’ve heard some people say natural law is having to do with the way we perceive that the universe/reality operates, which would go with definition 2... but still that’s not having anything to do with morality or ethics.
Common sense definition, “natural” = relating to nature.
The point here is that there are multiple groups using the term with different meanings.
I’ve asked 4 people with no connection to the “truth movement” what came to mind when they heard this term. They basically said “law of the jungle, dog eat dog.” And that IS nature. It’s brutal. Nature is not a source for morality.
“Natural law theory” as put forth by Thomas Aquinas is a legal theory / moral philosophy based A LOT in religious ideas. That alone surprises me because so many people who have left organized religion wanna latch onto this system. I’ve seen some things say natural law is supposedly not about nature, but “nature’s god.” 
Ok, how is that any different? Are we making an assumption to know that there is a nature’s god and what nature’s god views as moral? Is there just one? How do we know there not multiple gods? How would we know? If it’s nature’s god, wouldn’t the creation reflect the creator? I mean how would you get your info on what “nature’s god” determines? by observing nature, right? Well, back to previous comments I made on nature.
Ok, how is that any different? Are we making an assumption to know that there is a nature’s god and what nature’s god views as moral? Is there just one? How do we know there not multiple gods? How would we know? If it’s nature’s god, wouldn’t the creation reflect the creator? I mean how would you get your info on what “nature’s god” determines? by observing nature, right? Well, back to previous comments I made on nature.———
This is another definition I’ve heard:
“Do the least harm possible to survive.”
Or
“Do no harm, take no shit.”
I like these thoughts.
BUT again— is this reflected in “nature?” Nope.
Why did they call it natural law? Why didn’t they call it Thomas Aquinas law, or something else which could not be confused? You say you follow “natural law” ... well so do the psychopaths. Their definition of those words is not the same.
Back to claims of natural law being “unchanging” and also completely objective:
Ok, so it’s wrong to kill others. But what if someone is trying to hurt you, or someone else? What if killing one person would save 1000? So then killing someone would be acceptable, right?
Definitions
Subjective: based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
Objective: not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts. [I would argue this is impossible really. Everything we do/think goes through the filters of our own perceptions, programming, experiences, environment, etc. there is no way for something to be 100% objective!]
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So to sum up,
I like a lot of the moral guidelines that some people want to call natural law.
I do not like the terminology bc I feel it is highly misleading and it can be used with totally opposite understandings. I do not understand why others who are aware of how language is used to manipulate and confuse don’t get this. I thought we were not a fan of confusing legal terminology anyway....?
We need to be honest with the fact that these are all rules and ideas that have been concocted by HUMAN MINDS to construct and maintain societies.
I hope this has all been clear enough. I’ve tried to piece together various thoughts/comments and it’s a little tough to do on my phone.
--later thoughts/comments on the post--
Someone
had commented on my original post regarding the 7 hermetic principles being natural law.
This was my response:
I
think the hermetic principles get us closer... I am not sure they are
without holes either though. Idk if anything is airtight so it might be
about choosing what makes the most sense and what can get you the
closest, which may be hermetic principles... idk 
I try to tear everything apart. A lot of people don’t like that but I can’t help it. Lol!
I try to tear everything apart. A lot of people don’t like that but I can’t help it. Lol!-----
I
think it’s a man made construct no matter what. All these things are
ideas people have come up with. That’s not saying they’re all bad, but
we just gotta recognize stuff for what it is and that it’s limited to
our perception / awareness / knowledge as a human. I have a big problem
now with ascribing anything to a god as far as rules or that kind of
thing. So many problems have been caused by people claiming god said
this or wants that. I think we just need to examine things, discuss pros
and cons and try to choose what is most beneficial and helpful.
Sometimes that changes depending on the circumstances.
I think the term “law” is problematic too.
The
only definition of “natural law” that might work for me is just the way
nature operates. Sun, moon, planets, Seasons. But even then, we don’t
know much for sure about those things. Ex: we cant even agree on what
shape this place is.. have the sun, moon, stars always been the same or
are going to eternally be the same? Idk.. so i wouldn’t call it “law.”
The way of nature... The Tao..
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The
veil of Isis is a metaphor and allegorical artistic motif in which
nature is personified as the goddess Isis covered by a veil or mantle,
representing the inaccessibility of nature's secrets.
For now that’s basically where I am. I don’t know that we can know, but I’ll keep looking! Lol
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We don’t *know* that life/energy is eternal.
We don’t *know* if there is a beginning / end or not.
“Time”
is a construct as in the way we count years, hours, days. No calendar
is exact to cycles that seem to be observable and the cycles may not
even be consistent.
I
don’t know that I believe in vibration alignment stuff anymore or know
that we choose to come here. Why would we choose to go through all this
shit? To grow? To what end? Are we all sadists who are gluttons for
punishment? What’s the purpose? Nobody knows. The theory that we are all
god that wanted to get lost in matter is interesting but at the end of
the day it is one theory of many. The vibration, choosing to come here
stuff is similar to law of attraction ideas. Well I know of two bank
tellers in my area who were gunned down at point blank range. They chose
that? They weren’t operating on the right frequency? They attracted
that guy to come kill them?
To
have total free will you have to have the knowledge of all the
possibilities that are available. I don’t believe we do. We have limited
knowledge that we use to make choices.
I
don’t know that I buy all is “god” anymore either. We have this thing
where we are all god or we are all human or this certain thing will
happen to us all when we die. Like there is some set way things always
have to be. Maybe there are many, many variations? I don’t know.
We
are all contributing to this reality but maybe there are other entities
we aren’t aware of that are affecting things. Maybe we are some alien
experiment or there was something that created this place and us. I
don’t know. I do think we should take responsibility and try to do the
best that we can but at the same time you can live a decent life like I
understood those two ladies to have done and get gunned down one day. On
a smaller level I was trying to do martial arts and other stuff to
replace the church aspect I had lost and it was helping me physically
and mentally. Then my back got screwed up and it’s greatly affected my
life for well over a year now.. So one step forward, two steps back.
Anyway,
just random thoughts. We are all working out exactly what we believe
and trying to figure out ourselves and this environment.